The Diablo 3 Auction House will be a place where people can use REAL MONEY to buy items/custom maps/stuff, and afaik sell them for real money as well. This basically means you can, with enough grinding, get yourself a stable economy irl if you sell stuff that is wanted.
This promotes gold farming, and that is something we do NOT WANT!
If you use real money to buy in-game currency, then yea, its ok. If you can sell stuff for real money however, i wont buy Diablo 3.
TL;DR Remove the ability to buy items in the game with real money when it comes out.|||Regardless or not if it's through blizzard, this type of item purchasing will still happen. This way blizzard is cutting the middleman from such events.|||Been done to death but...RMT is going to happen either way. People are going to buy and sell items and characters either way. Blizzard taking a piece of that pie isn't going to affect your gameplay, except that people will be bigger jerks in D3 than in other online games.|||
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Many of you know what i mean.
The Diablo 3 Auction House will be a place where people can use REAL MONEY to buy items/custom maps/stuff, and afaik sell them for real money as well. This basically means you can, with enough grinding, get yourself a stable economy irl if you sell stuff that is wanted.
This promotes gold farming, and that is something we do NOT WANT!
If you use real money to buy in-game currency, then yea, its ok. If you can sell stuff for real money however, i wont buy Diablo 3.
TL;DR Remove the ability to buy items in the game with real money when it comes out.
d2jsp is still going to be around, whether you have the rmah or not. in fact, i think they might continue to use it to avoid transaction costs.|||
Q u o t e:
Many of you know what i mean.
The Diablo 3 Auction House will be a place where people can use REAL MONEY to buy items/custom maps/stuff, and afaik sell them for real money as well. This basically means you can, with enough grinding, get yourself a stable economy irl if you sell stuff that is wanted.
This promotes gold farming, and that is something we do NOT WANT!
If you use real money to buy in-game currency, then yea, its ok. If you can sell stuff for real money however, i wont buy Diablo 3.
TL;DR Remove the ability to buy items in the game with real money when it comes out.
Either I am dumb or that makes no sense whatsoever...
Would the fact that you can buy items with real money NOT mean that in-game gold is less needed and therefore less farming prone?
And would being able to buy in-game gold with real-world money (which you say it is an ok system) NOT mean the exact same thing at the end of the day? Just adding a middle-man (in this case the in-game gold).
Imo, what the RWM-AH means is that profit is not enclosed to people who endeavour in illegal activities but to Blizzard and legit players as well. Being an option and still depending on a player-driven economy (i.e. you can only buy items that have dropped for other players anyway) it seems like the actual effect on gameplay will be very little while still allowing an average player to make a few bucks per month (i.e. that player would have always traded such items anyway on the AH to someone who had not gotten the drop themselves, but now he can choose to make real-life money out of it).
It further combats gold/item sellers by dropping the prices charged for their products, hopefully, to a value where keeping the service starts to become unprofitable, but will at least cut on their income for sure.
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The true issues that may ruin the system are bots and dupes... this Blizzard must do very effectively, to combat them.|||
Q u o t e:
Many of you know what i mean.
The Diablo 3 Auction House will be a place where people can use REAL MONEY to buy items/custom maps/stuff, and afaik sell them for real money as well. This basically means you can, with enough grinding, get yourself a stable economy irl if you sell stuff that is wanted.
This promotes gold farming, and that is something we do NOT WANT!
If you use real money to buy in-game currency, then yea, its ok. If you can sell stuff for real money however, i wont buy Diablo 3.
TL;DR Remove the ability to buy items in the game with real money when it comes out.
Actually it will discourage farming as a career and give people who farm for fun, which is what 3/4 of Diablo 2 players already do once they hit level 80+, a chance to either trade more easily for what they want or to maybe make a few $$.
The reason full-time farming will be discouraged is because career-farmers rely on there being very few competitors in the market and their ability to buy items for cheap from players or pay their workers almost nothing, to make large profits. When the 10-100k farmers that might actually try to play this game start having to compete with 2-4 million players who don't HAVE to make a profit, they will get trounced. RL prices will not be all that high after a few months and before long they won't be able to make more than $2-3 per hour. At that rate there will be dozens of more profitable games to farm and they will mostly leave.|||The worst case scenario is that the farmers flood the market and reduce costs for everyone.
I'm okay this this.|||
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If you use real money to buy in-game currency, then yea, its ok. If you can sell stuff for real money however, i wont buy Diablo 3.
Okay, thx, bye bye|||
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The worst case scenario is that the farmers flood the market and reduce costs for everyone.
I'm okay this this.
This is also true, and is a nice thing. The side benefit is the further they drive prices down the more of them that will leave for more profitable games. Farming is a self-correction occupation. There can only be so many before they all have to leave for greener pastures.
However, I still don't think it will come to this. Just the raw number of players finding items they don't need will keep prices in reasonable check.|||
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This is also true, and is a nice thing. The side benefit is the further they drive prices down the more of them that will leave for more profitable games. Farming is a self-correction occupation. There can only be so many before they all have to leave for greener pastures.
However, I still don't think it will come to this. Just the raw number of players finding items they don't need will keep prices in reasonable check.
True. The supply of professional RMT in WoW shot past the point where it was a worthwhile venture and now has settled down to a more reasonable number, as economics dictated. Blizzard's anti-cheating measures in WoW don't really deserve the credit for the reduced number of RMT. Blizzard's "gold is useful for some things but not that many things" policy deserves most of the credit.
Same thing will happen in D3. A ridiculously huge number of professional RMT early in the game's life and the number will dwindle as endgame gear drops to $0.20 apiece and it ceases to become worthwhile.|||Realtiy check : It's 2011, things change, and new business models such as microtransactions / DLC / real money involved in games and MMO's are now a beginning popular trend. A revolution & big milestone is happening before our very own eyes. Diablo 3 is going to do well, and you can bet Blizzard's new future MMO in 2013-2015 whenever, is going to include RMAH. Along with the countless number of MMO's and games out there jumpin on the trend. People should learn to get with the current modern times, or avoid it all if it's too much. But they'll eventually be coming back, buying & playing the game cause D3 is going to be all the rage & talk amongst friends
Common D3 worries & problems with easy solutions
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1. Gold might not being worth much or used. Solution - goldsinks, will be plenty.
2. Botters. Solution - strict ban system, hopefully it's be a great one to weed out bad people.
3. Gold farmers from other countries invading other continent's servers. Solution : Region-lock servers. That way americans are control of their own economy, asia players strictly have to stay on their servers, europeans have to stay on theirs. Who knows what the method could be, only time will tell. IP-veritified, home-address verified, game version type, etc are just some of many ideas. Just allowing chinese players to play on american servers and flooood & ruin the market with items / gold / insane oversaturation is a incredibily STUPID idea. This would not happen. If it were to happen, people would be complaining nonstop, causing chaos & havok, riots, etc.
selling items for real money is a great thing. it's a common situtation for people to take breaks or quit in MMO's / gaming and just have their character & account lying there. Imagine if you can sell the items you don't need anymore, your character, etc. Could be great side money for everyday living essentials : gas, food, bills, etc. Not as great as a real job of course, but still something. And something is always better then nothing. Seems a lot of < 18 people are anti-RMAH cause... they don't have jobs or credit cards. I think in time, more and more will become optismistic and start to realize the greatness of RMAH
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If you use real money to buy in-game currency, then yea, its ok. If you can sell stuff for real money however, i wont buy Diablo 3.
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I really love this quote. Yeah it's ok to flood our economy with an infinite supply of Blizzard gold that comes out of nowhere, but god forbid we have a stable economy that is player controlled.
Just so thick with the irony.|||
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This promotes gold farming, and that is something we do NOT WANT!
That would depend on the state of the gold seed/sink ratio. If the gold seed is calibrated to factor in players farming gold then you're looking at a stable economy.|||
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Regardless or not if it's through blizzard, this type of item purchasing will still happen. This way blizzard is cutting the middleman from such events.
you're confused. blizz is introducing a middleman...themselv
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The worst case scenario is that the farmers flood the market and reduce costs for everyone.
I'm okay this this.
Are you @@##ing crazy? that's a terrible scenario. Does none of you actually enjoy finding things for yourself? Do you really want most of the best items to be worthless?
EDIT: funny note, the security code for posting started with "qq"
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