Thursday, April 19, 2012

Kindly stop insulting Softcore players please

We get it, you love the rush and you think we're carebears (or whatever the new term is I suppose).
I've played hardcore before, I know where you're coming from. There's adrenaline rushes, fear, the knowledge that any move you make could be your last. Softcore players think you're crazy and you find it hilarious, you get your own little community of players, you get a warm fuzzy feeling if you hit level cap because you effing survived to get there. Yes, you did it, good for you.
However, please stop assuming Softcore players "have no balls." They are not lesser gamers than you, they are not somehow inferior, they are not crybabies, they are not cowards, etc.
We're all gamers here, we have different preferred styles of gaming, that does not mean either style is wrong. Yes, you are in fact playing a harder mode, we understand that. You don't tend to see Softcore players insulting Hardcore players though, it's almost always the other way around. I'm sorry, you need to grow up and realize not every gamer is the same.
These are not the WoW forums, please don't drag in silly elitism over such a minor thing. We are all Diablo fans, we are all gamers.|||Softcore players just happen to value their time and aren't excited about the idea that a dropped connection or lag spike could erase a month or two of their lives.
I find no rush in that. If you do, great for you.
've posted this in another hardcore thread as well:
If you think about it, "hardcore" players play more softcore than "softcore" players. Tiptoeing about being extra careful and taking few chances for fear of perma death. "Softcore" players are hardcore, rushing into battle with reckless abandon covered in blood and demon entrails and can't be ganked by our service providers.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an achievement *#**% so I'll do Hardcore mode for achievements if they are specific to that mode, but I won't invest too much into a hardcore character because they all die eventually.|||You're just fueling the fire. They really don't care about your opinion just as much as you don't care about theirs. Topic = waste of time. Thank god we have forever for the game to come out so this is the perfect place to waste it!|||

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You're just fueling the fire. They really don't care about your opinion just as much as you don't care about theirs. Topic = waste of time. Thank god we have forever for the game to come out so this is the perfect place to waste it!

Except that's the whole point, if the sides don't care about each others opinions things just go farther down hill. Not caring about people and only assuming your side is correct is the main reason so much crap goes on, and that's not even limited to Diablo.
Also, yes, I'm tired of waiting for the game as well :P|||I didn't even see anyone insulting SC. : /
But I will, if you want, due to their predilection for buying items!|||HC will be fun.
SC will be fun.
They both just cater to different crowds really.
So this abuse of HC or SC players really needs to stop. They should be happy SC and HC both exist. Cause that's more players. And more players equals more boxes sold and more cash for Blizzard.
And more cash for Blizzard = better games for us.
Some people just like to abuse others. And just can't see the bigger picture.|||

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HC will be fun.
SC will be fun.
They both just cater to different crowds really.
So this abuse of HC or SC players really needs to stop. They should be happy SC and HC both exist. Cause that's more players. And more players equals more boxes sold and more cash for Blizzard.
And more cash for Blizzard = better games for us.
Some people just like to abuse others. And just can't see the bigger picture.

HC people have the BALLZ to be douches. :P|||

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I didn't even see anyone insulting SC. : /
But I will, if you want, due to their predilection for buying items!

But this is like saying HC players never bought items. There was all sorts of trading in the D2 HC groups, the only difference now is that there's a centralized AH to make it so you don't have to spam trade channels. And even if there are some players who will use cash to buy items, it's now a legit in-game system which means bashing people for doing it is just as silly as bashing people for playing Softcore of Hardcore.|||I have played my share of hardcore diablo 2 character and only one of them died due to my own error (I assumed slow missiles worked on MS-LE Radament on Hell without thinking about him being magic magic immune). The rest of my characters died to disconnects and lag. I assume the D3 connections are far better than D2 ever was - mainly due to Blizzards experience with WoW and SC2. Whether that is good enough for me to mainly go Hardcore only time will tell.
Especially teen boys have a natural instinct to tell everyone how awesome they are or how much everyone else suck - that kind of attitude doesn't just go on pause while they play a game,|||

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Especially teen boys have a natural instinct to tell everyone how awesome they are or how much everyone else suck - that kind of attitude doesn't just go on pause while they play a game,

Please don't be sexist. Girls like to brag when they play games just as much as guys do.|||Softcore players are kind of like souless zombies.
Hardcore players are the type of people who landed on the moon and discovered America.|||

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Softcore players just happen to value their time and aren't excited about the idea that a dropped connection or lag spike could erase a month or two of their lives.
I find no rush in that. If you do, great for you.
've posted this in another hardcore thread as well:
If you think about it, "hardcore" players play more softcore than "softcore" players. Tiptoeing about being extra careful and taking few chances for fear of perma death. "Softcore" players are hardcore, rushing into battle with reckless abandon covered in blood and demon entrails and can't be ganked by our service providers.
Don't get me wrong, I'm an achievement *#**% so I'll do Hardcore mode for achievements if they are specific to that mode, but I won't invest too much into a hardcore character because they all die eventually.

Don't use dial-up? I can tell you first hand that not all HC chars die eventually. People can play what they want but saying that it's because they die to lag is a cop out. Very few characters die to lag now that this thing called broadband internet exists. But if you use some kind of shoddy DSL I guess it makes sense.|||I think the OP has a fair request. HC and SC, what does it matter? We are both diablo fans. What about those of us who like both, HC and SC? I play softcore with my kids, they are constantly dying, so why would I force them into playing hardcore, just because I think its fun?
So in that respect, the difference between a HC character and a SC character, is just a matter of perspective, one isn't better than the other, they are both good. To a HC character, the game play is much more intense, and every decision has dire consequences. That is what they love and get a bit of a rush from. For SC characters, they like the idea knowing their time invested into the game, accumulating wealth and items will not be suddenly cut short.
They are two sides to the same coin. Heads vs Tails. Neither is better, they just are. There is no reason to insult each other, just because we have differing ideas of what is fun.|||Softcore people are weak and cant make a viable build, cause if it was viable they wouldn't die|||

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Except that's the whole point, if the sides don't care about each others opinions things just go farther down hill. Not caring about people and only assuming your side is correct is the main reason so much crap goes on, and that's not even limited to Diablo.
Also, yes, I'm tired of waiting for the game as well :P

I'm sorry to break it to you but you won't fix the ills of humanity in a Diablo forum. Valiant effort, though.|||

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I'm sorry to break it to you but you won't fix the ills of humanity in a Diablo forum. Valiant effort, though.

True enough but if I don't practice the same morals on this forum that I did in real life I would be nothing more than a hypocrite.|||If you're a hardcore gamer it's probably time to go outside... yes, humans are real.|||I have had high level HC and SC characters. the only real difference i find myself is that i take alot more care in my play style when im playing on my HC character. but ATM with the type of gear available- you could almost consider it easy to keep a HC character alive anymore in D2. I find it difficult to die really in hell mode with my pally. Really once a character hit's the 90's, you usually have decent enough gear to give you plenty of survivability. Anyone Bragging about how great they are due to being HC --- well on D2--- its not that big of deal. Im a "casual" player and I still have an HC non ladder character that I have played frequently...and not died...
Those who die usually are from "pvp" --- or carelessness --- (lets tele into that mob and waste em)
once in a while it will be from their connection- I have lost HC characters from that also.
HC is only a play mode---its not a player definition...much like those who like pvp--- pvp is a play mode, not a player definition.|||To be entirely fair; PvE in general is for carebears, be it Hardcore or Softcore ;)
There is no real challenge in fighting AI, real difficulty lies in facing human opponents. With that said, I enjoy me some PvE! But lets not pretend it is really all that difficult, for HC or SC.|||

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To be entirely fair; PvE in general is for carebears, be it Hardcore or Softcore ;)
There is no real challenge in fighting AI, real difficulty lies in facing human opponents. With that said, I enjoy me some PvE! But lets not pretend it is really all that difficult, for HC or SC.

stop trolling, troll.

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